Saturday, July 7, 2012

The worst love triangles of all time


You can’t have a best list without a worst list.

Okay, you can, but sometimes it’s fun to compile both.

When it comes to triangles, though, what makes one triangle better than the other?

Personally, I think it comes down to popularity.

A successful triangle has people on both sides rooting for different configurations within the triangle.

An unsuccessful triangle is one that there’s no doubt about what the outcome is going to be.

So, what are the worst triangles in television and movies?

10. Lex, Lana, Clark (Smallville): This triangle had trouble written all over it from the get go. Let’s get this out of the way right at the start, Kristin Kreuk is a poor actress. Poor. I mean really poor. The best thing that ever happened to ‘Smallville’ was Lana Lang leaving town -- too bad it didn't happen years before it did, but I digress. Before that, though, Lana spent some time torn between bad boy Lex and good guy Clark. The problem is, fans knew they could never invest in Lana and Clark because of the Superman mythology and the introduction of Lois Lane. Fans also knew they didn’t want to invest in Lex and Lana because, well, even though he was a sociopath, Lex deserved better than Lana. Is my Lana hate showing?

9. Brooke, Lucas, Peyton (One Tree Hill): This triangle was stacked to one side from the beginning. The writers of ‘One Tree Hill’ set up Peyton and Lucas as a great love story from the initial minutes of the long-running show. Sure, Lucas hooked up with Brooke first – and he dumped her for Peyton pretty quickly. When that didn’t work out, he decided he loved Brooke (even though Peyton was pining for him). Brooke finally let Lucas back in only to find Lucas and Peyton sneaking around behind her back again. The thing is, Brooke was never really a consideration for Lucas. They were great friends – but he never truly loved anyone but Peyton.

8. Ted, Robin, Barney (How I Met Your Mother): This is one of those triangles that never even should have been suggested, let alone tried.  First of all, the appeal of Barney is that he is an unapologetic ladies man. He’s also loyal. He would never go after his friend’s ex-girlfriend. It’s just not in his nature. Sure, Barney told Ted about his feelings and asked if it was O.K. to pursue his feelings for Robin -- but the truth is that Barney would never have asked the question to begin with. When you couple that with the fact Robin just isn’t worth Ted or Barney’s affections? Yeah, it’s one of primetime’s most ill conceived triangles.

 7. Rory, Dean, Jess (Gilmore Girls): I was never a big Jess fan. Okay, that’s not true. When Jess came back –especially in season six – he was a changed character that showed a lot of growth and warmth. When he was first introduced, though, and during his run in seasons two and three he was a little punk. The reason this triangle didn’t work is that the Dean character was sacrificed on the Jess altar – and it just wasn’t fair. Dean wasn’t portrayed as a genius in the first season – but he was certainly dumbed down the minute Jess came to town. Jess was portrayed as this misunderstood loner that could be changed by the power of love. The problem is, when he finally got Rory he still mistreated her and left town. Now, I don’t believe for a second that Rory was going to end up with either of these jokers, but this triangle should have been dumped early on.

6. Zack, Kelly, Slater (Saved By the Bell): This triangle didn’t really last long (it only felt like it – I promise). The problem is, as far as characters go, Mark-Paul Gosselaar’s Zack had so much more charisma than Mario Lopez’ Slater that it wasn’t even funny. Sure, ‘Saved By the Bell’ was a kid’s show – and continuity was never something the writers on the show did well – but I know a lot of people in my age bracket that were crushed when Zack and Kelly broke up. Thankfully, that misguided college season of ‘Saved By the Bell’ did one thing right – it reunited Zack and Kelly. If only it could have done the same thing for Slater and Jessie.

5. Ross, Rachel, Joey (Friends): I liked all of the “friends.” I really did. I didn’t dislike a one of them. However, when Joey first developed a crush on Rachel I thought it was out-of-place but harmless. After all, Rachel could never reciprocate those feelings for Joey. The problem is, the writers had her reciprocate the feelings – and one of the most uncomfortable triangles in television history was born. I don’t think there was any ‘Friends’ fan that ever though Ross and Rachel wouldn’t end up together. So the Rachel and Joey coupling hurt relationships between Rachel and Ross and Joey and Ross. Thankfully, the writers killed the couple pretty early into the final season. Otherwise, fans would still be complaining.

4. Meredith, Derek, Addison (Grey’s Anatomy): I like all three actors involved in the triangle. Okay, I like Ellen Pompeo as a person and not an actor, but still, I don’t hate her. Either way, though, this triangle seemed to come out of nowhere. First of all, Derek not telling Meredith he was married seems wildly out of character for his “white knight” doctor. Second, Addison is a woman that stands on her own two feet. Stalking the guy that walked out on her doesn’t exactly seem like something she would do. In most triangles, the writer has to try hard to make sure one person isn’t too unlikeable. The problem with this triangle is that all three characters became unlikeable.

3. Blair, Chuck, Dan (Gossip Girl): Penn Badgley is the second most vapid 20-something in to grace the small screen in recent years. He ceded the title -- just barely --  to co-star Chace Crawford. That’s a whole other rant, though. The Blair and Dan “romance” not only came out of nowhere  – but it was built on absolutely no chemistry and forced contrivances. Let’s face it, ‘Gossip Girl’ is never going to be award-winning programming. It’s only claim to fame is the Blair and Chuck relationship. Luckily, the ‘Gossip Girl’ head honchos realized their mistake early and harpooned Dan and Blair without a second thought. In the final season of 'Gossip Girl' all fans cared about was the reveal of the narrator's identity (totally boring) and the reunion of Chuck and Blair.

2. Edward, Bella, Jacob (Twilight): There’s never any doubt where this triangle is going. Forget the fact – for a second at least – that these are three of the most vacant characters in movie and literary history. Bella never even remotely pretends that Jacob has a shot. Heck, she and Edward were dating like two weeks before he dumped her and she went to bed for five months and gave teenage girls everywhere a bad name. None of the actors in this triangle are talented – but there have been plenty of actors that have launched successful triangles without being talented. This triangle fell flat from the very beginning. It had nowhere to go but up. It just never went up.

1. Han, Leia, Luke (Star Wars): Listen, this is my favorite movie franchise of all time, but this triangle is all sorts of uncomfortable. First of all, Mark Hamill really doesn’t have any charisma – so why anyone would chose Luke and his phallic weapon over Harrison Ford’s Han and his roguish charm is beyond me. Second, I think the fact that Leia and Luke kissed – twice (thankfully only once on the mouth) -- is proof that George Lucas just threw that Leia and Luke being twins things together at the last minute when he was planning ‘Return of the Jedi.’ Either way, you can’t have a viable triangle if two corners of it share DNA. Blech.

What do you think? What are the worst love triangles in entertainment history?

22 Comments:

OpenID xdegrassi-lover said...

I completely disagree with what you said about Dan and Blair. Their feelings for one another didn't come out of nowhere. Development began once the two teamed up together to take down Juliet in S4. It was from there a friendship blossomed. Fans of the pairing had to wait until the second half of S5 to witness the two embark in a relationship. Prior to that, the bond between Dan and Blair continued to grow throughout the beginning of the season.

If anything was contrived it was the Chuck/Blair reunion. Blair told Chuck that Dan was the one she had feelings for, so for her to fall back in love with Chuck after a brief conversation was absolutely ridiculous. And let's not forget that this was the same man who has repeatedly disregarded her own worth, ranging from the hotel to him manhandling her. Realistically, no woman would want to rekindle a romance with a man who has hurt her to such a degree.

And I'm sorry but I couldn't care less about Chuck and Blair's relationship at this point. I'm more interested in seeing how in the hell the writers will be able to redeem all of their characters given the mess of that horrid S5 finale. The fact that the writers devoted so much time into making Chuck and Blair the be-all and end-all of the show is what contributed to its decline.

July 7, 2012 at 4:46 PM 
Blogger Danielle said...

I agree 100% with your comments re: Chuck/Blair/Dan.

We all now that Leighton Meester and Ed Westwick are the ones who really carry the show and Chuck and Blair have been the break-out couple since season one.

July 7, 2012 at 9:37 PM 
Blogger Tracy Haven said...

I completely agree about what you said about the Dan and Blair. They sucked everyone knows it. So happy they got rid of that terrible couple. I am so happy that they are getting Chuck and Blair back together!

I totally agree about the Ross/Rachel/Joey love triangle too. It as stupid.

July 7, 2012 at 9:45 PM 
Blogger Maria said...

Then you haven't really paid attention to the show @xdegrassi-lover.
She never said to Chuck that Dan was the one she has feelings for, nor did she said to Dan that he is the one who has her heart now. She even told Chuck that she loves him...while being with Dan.
After the car accident and the things she said to Chuck in the car, it was very unbelievable that she suddenly fell for Dan, after everything that happend.
Dan almost forced her to be with him, when he told her that he can't be friends with her...all or nothing. She realized her feelings for him, when she realized his feelings for her (He loves me for me). I've never seen B truly caring about Dan...their whole relationship was about her.
Blair explained it very well in the finale. Being with Dan was one of the things she did, to fight her love for Chuck.
A CB reunion is never contrived since their relationship is the only thing on GG that's running since the first season. They are never not together, even when they are not a couple, the writers always make sure the audience can see that they always love each other.
Dan & Blair was just an obstacle for Blair's friendship with Serena and her relationship with Chuck.

July 7, 2012 at 10:01 PM 
Blogger ACslater said...

Agree with all of these (all the ones I've seen, anyway). A lot of these triangles, the outcomes were obvious from the beginning, which makes it a complete waste of time. Did anyone ever think Rachel would end up with Joey? Or Derek with Addison, Bella with Jacob, or Blair with Dan? Come on. It just ends up feeling like a forced obstacle for the couple that clearly IS going to end up together. And Rachel and Joey in particular was really uncomfortable to watch, I still skip those episodes on reruns.

The Luke/Leia/Han one made me LOL though. Maybe because I wasn't born until after the last Star Wars came out, but I never thought that was even a triangle. Just a creepy incestuous moment I guess, ha.

July 7, 2012 at 10:06 PM 
Blogger Serena van der Woodsen said...

Good article. I particularly agree with the Ross/Rachel/Joey and Chuck/Blair/Dan. Most of the comments have addressed the points I wanted to make but I wanted to add a couple of additional things regarding the contrived, poorly executed S5 Chuck/Blair/Dan "triangle".

If you have to (1) retcon history (essay contest anyone?), (2) make characters behave OUT of character (the previously deeply loyal, intuitive, emotionally steadfast and consistent, patrician and self-reliant Blair Waldorf morphed into a emotionally flakey damsel in distress/Vanessa Abrams wannabee that loves Radiohead, makes out by dumpsters and is oblivious to the pain she is causing her best friend), (3) find contrived reasons to isolate a pairing so they can become friends (in S4) and then later have a relationship (in S5) and (4) eviscerate other characters to make said pairing even remotely plausible (how many OTP do you know have a history of one partner selling out the love of their life for a hotel?) then that should be a clue you are on the wrong writing track. That's the antithesis of "organic" storytelling (one of Josh Safran's fav words). It's the very definition of "forced".

Don't even get me started on Penn and Leighton's complete lack of romantic and sexual chemistry - something that should have been obvious to the writers and producers after their awkward 4x17 kiss.

As for x-degrassilover's assertion that Gossip Girl's decline was due to the show making Chuck and Blair their end all be all: Chuck and Blair became the core couple starting in S2 due to overwhelmingly positive critical and fan reaction to them in S1. (Dan and Serena were supposed to be the core romantic couple). The payoff was Gossip Girl's highest ratings during CB's romantic build up in early S2, Gossip Girl as a show (and Chuck Bass and Blair Waldorf as characters for that matter) becoming a fashion and pop cultural phenomena and Chuck and Blair's "I love you" scene coming in second for a fan voted Emmy in early S3. So no, I don't see how anyone could reasonably claim making Chuck and Blair the show's core relationship led to Gossip Girl's decline. That decision had the exact opposite effect. As the writer stated, they are the show's main draw for most of the casual viewing audience.

If anything led to Gossip Girl's decline it was the shift in writing for Chuck and Blair that took place when Josh Safran took over in S3 (when Josh Schwartz began focusing more on "Chuck"). First Safran stuck Chuck and Blair in the background in favor of such "winning" storylines as Blair's fish out of water NYU story (that conveniently put her near Dan), Dan's romance with Lizzie McGuire and Rufus and Lily's long lost son with an affinity for guyliner. Then in the second half of S3 Safran decided to up the ante by destroying CB and Chuck Bass as a character(Safy would probably call it "deconstruction") by having Chuck sell out the love of his life for a hotel. Not so coincidentally the very next episode contained the first blatant foreshadowing of a future Dan and Blair romance. (Safran later admitted this was all intentional.) So in contrast to xdegrassilover, I assert Gossip Girl's decline actually began when Josh Safran became fixated on setting the groundwork for the audience to accept the awful "triangle" that is the focus of this very article.

July 8, 2012 at 12:44 AM 
OpenID simpleanddeadly5 said...

I agree with all of these, haha, especially your top three. What is the point of annoying people with horrible or impossible couples when the other one is a foregone conclusion? Of course Bella would never get over Edward, Blair belonged with Chuck, and Leia wasn't going to date her brother.

In fact, the only one I slightly disagree with is How I Met Your Mother, and that's because the reason I hate it is more than I already know Robin's not the mother. So why are we pretending like Robin will pick Ted over Barney when it doesn't matter in the end?

July 8, 2012 at 7:24 AM 
OpenID xdegrassi-lover said...

@Maria, Blair admitted to Dan in 5x17 that Chuck no longer had her heart whereas Dan did. It was only in that awful S5 finale where she went back on her word. How was it "unbelievable" for her to develop feelings for Dan? He stood by her side throughout everything in S5 ranging from her pregnancy, to the wedding, her pact with God, etc. Blair even said this in 5x16, hence why she was torn between both Chuck and Dan. The fact is Blair trusted Dan because she knew that he put her long-term interests into consideration. This was proven once she asked Dan to rescue her from the wedding fiasco.

I find it amusing how you believe that Dan forced Blair into a relationship. She had an opportunity to walk away from him in that episode so she could be with Chuck, but she ultimately decided not to. Dan needed clarification about how she felt, which was understandable considering Blair's back and forth behavior. It wasn't like he held her at gunpoint. And have you forgotten about Chuck's controlling ways? When Blair told him that she was going to marry Louis, he manhandled her and continuously muttered that "you're mine". Treating her like she's an object. Or what about him attempting to confine Blair into her empty marriage with Louis?

The fact that you admitted that CB's relationship isn't contrived only proves that you're biased towards the two. I feel like CB fans will justify anything for these two. Realistically, Chuck and Blair would've never reunited given the circumstances of their relationship.

July 8, 2012 at 10:05 AM 
OpenID xdegrassi-lover said...

@Serena van der Woodsen, I feel like you're only making assumptions. I cannot deny the fact that Chuck/Blair have a strong fanbase, but how do you know that they're the main attraction of the series? There's more to the show than their relationship. Do you, in fact, have proof that they were in the running for an Emmy nominations? Ratings for the series dropped in S3 prior to Chuck and Blair's breakup that year, so I think it's a little "out there" for you to say that them being apart is what made the series go down. Writing-wise, Chuck/Blair's relationship did assassinate the show. The S5 finale can prove that. When you have to ruin certain characters to reunite one pairing than it's clear that there's a problem.

From what I've gathered from your post, basically you wanted the entire third season to revolve around Chuck and Blair's relationship... How ridiculous does that sound? The show follows a group of New Yorkers whose lives are being carefully watched by an anonymous person. CB's relationship earned plenty of screentime that season. There is more to their characters than the relationship they have. The lovechild storyline didn't even last that long, as did Hilary Duff's story-arc. In my opinion such points aren't even valid to the equation.

July 8, 2012 at 10:05 AM 
Blogger Julia Ryan said...

Love most of your choices. I think the weirdest triangle was Ross, Rachel and Joey, the most pointless was Ted, Robina and Barney and the most destructive was the Dan, Blair and Chuck debacle. Still vomiting in my mouth over Dan and Blair. Somehow they managed to be both boring and gross. Quite an accomplishment. I know I'm not alone in that sentiment. All you had to do was check the ratings or Facebook or twitter when they got together and it was clear most casual viewers rejected that story. Even alot of the critics and bloggers that wanted to see Dan and Blair happen were disappointed by how they turned out. Hell the book series creator Cecily von ziegesar tweeted that they had no chemistry and Blair was acting very out of character.

I'm glad Gossip Girl ended the Dan and Blair thing so the final season can focus on the core relationships that made the show great like Chuck and Blair, Serena and Blair and *fingers crossed* Nate and Serena. I could not care less what happens to Dan Humphrey at this point. They ruined him this season by making him a creepy shady manipulative Claire Carlyle lapdog that treated his first great love Serena like garbage and sold all his friends out for a book. I was a Dan and Serena fan back in season 1 and season 2 but now I think she deserves better. But ngl, I found their hookup in the finale hot. Penn and Blake have so much more chemistry than Penn and Leighton.

July 8, 2012 at 11:45 AM 
Blogger AmieeJoy said...

Dean, Rory, Jess is Gilmore Girls not Gossip Girl...

July 8, 2012 at 12:08 PM 
Blogger Julia Ryan said...

Actually xdegrassi-lover Blair never said Dan had her heart. She only said that Chuck no longer did. She also hemmed and hawed about no longer being in love with Chuck by adding "at least not now..not the way you deserve." She wanted to be with someone that cared about her more than she cared about him because then he couldn't hurt her the way Chuck had hurt her. Her conversation with Serena at the wedding lays it all out. She tried that strategy with Louis and later Dan and only ended up hurting Louis, Dan, Serena and Chuck in the process. The story was never about Blair falling for Dan. It was about Blair's fear of being weak and vulnerable due to her love for Chuck. They spent all season reforming Chuck so she could take a risk on true love by the end of the season.

I agree with you that Gossip Girl should not be all about Chuck and Blair. I care about other characters too. Not sure I agree with Serena (the commentor, not the character haha) when she says the writers did the hotel story to make the audience OK with Dan and Blair. Sounds too conspiracy theory to me. But Serena is right and you are wrong when you say making Chuck and Blair the focus led to Gossip Girl's decline. Ratings were highest when they were the main story in season 2. I also agree with her that Chuck and Blair were pushed into the background in early season 3. I remember being excited that they were finally a couple and let down when they got so little screentime in comparison to season 2.
I also remember the Emmy she mentioned because I voted on it until my fingers were blue haha. The top three vote getters were announced on the Emmys telecast that year and Chuck's "I love you too" came in second. So she's right about Chuck and Blair still being super popular right before the writers did the hotel story.

Last point. No characters were destroyed to make Chuck and Blair's reunion happen. Dan and Serena's hookup had nothing to do with Blair picking Chuck. I don't think it ruined Dan's character either since he's cheated on girlfriends with Serena before.

July 8, 2012 at 1:29 PM 
Blogger CBGGLover LH said...

The comments from the handful of disgruntled GG viewers that have just recently woke up to the fact that they were PLAYED by Safran & Co. for 2 years are HILARIOUS!! Are you new to the show OR have you just been ignoring the 5 years & counting of CHAIR epicness & big flashing neon sign reading “CB=ENDGAME” from the start?!! LET’S GET REAL HERE: It was ALWAYS going to be CHUCK & BLAIR!! They were the endgame from S1 & no one and NOTHING compares to them. The only reason the OOC crapfest dragged on so long was Schwartz & Savage were occupied with other things & could not focus full attention on GG, so Safran was given reign to screw EVERYONE over for 2 years!! If Schwartz & Savage had been fully committed to GG during those 2 years, the disaster of S4 & S5 would have never happened like it did….Bank on it! And, Safran’s disastrous reign nearly got GG axed after S5, which was only part of the reason he got his walking papers & got “Smashed”!!

The show had never been on the brink of cancellation & in fact had always received EARLY renewals prior to S5 despite dwindling ratings & the reason the ratings have dropped is that viewers are FED UP with the games & contrived obstacles. Which brings us to S6 CHAIR premiere wedding...It’s LONG OVERDUE fan payoff!! The fans have EARNED it & GG owes us BIG TIME. Looks like TPTB are simply recognizing that simple truth! La dolce vida, CHAIR!! You’ve EARNED it & the fans have EARNED it 1,000 times over!!!

CB=DESTINY=ENDGAME!!!!

July 8, 2012 at 2:19 PM 
Blogger Jovana said...

So so so so true about Dan/Blair/Chuck and Joey/Rachel/Ross. I still skip those Joey/Rach episodes because they are so awkward and weird. Boy did it die painful death quickly because fans were quite outraged.

I dont even know WHERE to begin with CBD. Absolutely THE WORST triangle in history of modern television. Histories had to be made up off-screen to justify certain feelings, Chuck's character was put on guillotine (hotel, drunken outburst of violence) so Dan can rise from the ashes, but Safran didnt consider ONE thing: NOBODY and their grandmother cares about Dan Humphrey. I think Safran sees himself as Dan Humphrey so he pimped him out to the max. Casual audience did not buy it, and those who did were deeply disappointed with the lack of sexual chemistry in Dan and Blair. The final result was the most contrived, forced, boring relationship on TV.

Many Dan and Blair supporters absolutely fail to recognize the loving couple Chuck and Blair were in Season 3. He was a GOOD boyfriend to her, until Safran took over. They have potential for greatness AND evil, which is what makes them so interesting to watch. They bring out the worst AND best from each other, and when I read my books, watch tv and film, I want anguish, pain, happiness, pleasure and great passion! Thats Chuck and Blair. Plain and simple.

July 8, 2012 at 5:39 PM 
OpenID 24hrscout said...

Megan Crisp said...
Completely agree with this: Let’s face it, ‘Gossip Girl’ is never going to be award-winning programming. It’s only claim to fame is the Blair and Chuck relationship. Luckily, the ‘Gossip Girl’ head honchos realized their mistake early and harpooned Dan and Blair without a second though. This will be the final season of ‘Gossip Girl.’ The only thing the fans really care about anymore IS Blair and Chuck."

I do think they dragged Dan and Blair out too long and lost a lot of fans doing so, but ,thankfully the only couple we care about (Chuck and Blair) will be back.

July 9, 2012 at 8:51 AM 
Blogger andrea said...

I don't agree with all of this, well maybe except han solo/leia/luke, that was pretty weird. every relationship meant something to the character development, I still think the journey are more meaningful than the end, people who make impact in character life even how small it is are still important, every relationship (or triangle) will make a different in all characters life

oh and btw I think your shipper heart clouded your judgment, it's pretty clear the way you wrote the article which side you prefer, you need more impartial, so people can enjoy reading your article without feeling their preference being attack by you

July 12, 2012 at 9:46 AM 
OpenID firetears said...

It's so sad the extent that CB fans will go to defend their billboard couple. And to imply that any DB fan is delusional but still go on and on about how Blair didn't say that Dan had her heart? You're freakin' hilarious, guys. How can you say that DB didn't have any development? And CB did?!

Let's talk about how their hookup in 1x08 came completely from left-field. And that was fine because it was supposed to be regarded as just a simple hookup but fans ate that one night stand up and bandwagoners fell in line. If the finale of season 1 proved anything, it was that no one is OTP on the show. And then season 2 rolls around after the writers get stacks of verbally abusive letters from Ikea shippers so they sung a completely different song in season 2 and started catering to them. THAT was when the show went downhill. The CB fans have way too much influence over the show to the point that it ruined years of development for Blair. And somehow, people that call themselves fans and say they care for the characters still accepted that. You're ridiculous.

Blair had been a miserable character since season 3 BECAUSE of Chuck. And it's not just speculation. She had said it herself on multiple occasions.

- "Louis made me happy. Happy. Do you know the last time I felt joy? Chuck had brought me into his darkness for so long, I had forgotten what that felt like."

- "When I saw how happy you and Vanya are, it mad me realize how unhappy I am."

- "What I want is to be a powerful woman but every time Chuck's around, I feel like a weak little girl."

- "I just want to be happy but I don't think I know how to anymore."

There's years of abuse and manipulation from Chuck to the point that she started to lose who she was (again: something she said herself). He made her think that their relationship was okay because they're the same and Dan was the one who saw Blair for more than a conniving, backstabbing, miserable person. Dan was the person that brought her out from the darkness and made her into her own person again. He treated her better than anyone.

July 18, 2012 at 10:44 AM 
OpenID firetears said...

When Blair humiliated Dan during his book release party, he wasn't mad because she made him look bad. He was upset because she didn't know how amazing of a person she already was. Chuck never once told Blair that she's amazing. He told her the complete opposite. When she said that they're relationship is sick and twisted he said it because they both are. He made her believe that she didn't even deserve a relationship like the one she had with Dan: pure and simple love ("who else could love me after what I've become"). CB has to be the most glorified abusive relationship in primetime television history. The worst part is that CB fans will continue to defend it to the end.

And you make this article lose credibility when you're falsely fact-stating. DB did NOT come from nowhere. It took them years just to build an understanding between each other. They started out hating each other. But Dan gave her a little insight on his relationship with his mother to help Blair fix hers. And that was the beginning but there was other times where Blair had turned to Dan for help or guidance and still claimed that they had a mutual hate for each other (note: Dan helps Blair when he says he hates her whereas Chuck sells the love of his life for a hotel. Yet, DB was disgusting to you? I can't deal). The writers themselves even admitted that the Blair and Dan relationship was the most developed out of any other romantic relationship on the show. So, the fact that you have to lie to yourself to make CB look better says a lot about both relationships.

And if you guys didn't know, degrassi_lover not only shipped CB initially but Chuck was also one of his favorite characters. He just has enough brains to know when things turned sour. Oh, and just because your Ikea shippers are loud doesn't mean they take up the entire fanbase. Believe me, there are plenty of DB fans. And reviewers had called the DB storyline one of the most refreshing storylines on GG in years. So please get the facts right before rambling about how every fan wants that one ship. They don't.

July 18, 2012 at 10:46 AM 
OpenID firetears said...

One more thing: You should REALLY rewatch seasons 2 and 3 of OTH. The reason I find the Brooke/Lucas/Peyton triangle so terrible is because Lucas's feelings for Peyton in 4x09 didn't rely on anything between them except the scene at the end of the pilot. If the show was done right, Lucas would've definitely ended up with Brooke. She was the one he developed a genuine relationship with. His relationship with Peyton was contrived as hell and put there only because it was strongly implemented into the pilot so it just HAD to happen.

Brooke and Lucas were filled with so many great, honest moments. After he cheated on her in season 1, she basically hated him. It wasn't until 2x02 where they tried being "friends", which, in reality just meant that they act civil towards each other instead of Brooke giving him a death stare at every hallway passing. And then in 2x09 Lucas and Brooke have the first heart-to-heart as friends. Subtly was so key with them. When he reached his hand out for her at the end of the beach scene, you can notice that she pauses for a moment. It was a struggle for her to trust him again but she did it. And in 2x10 they said that they were actually going to be FRIENDS.

For the rest of the season they had so many great moments that escalated to finale where Lucas could no longer hide his feelings for her. It was nothing like the little-to-no development that Pucas every had. Especially after season 1. And in season 3, Lucas spent a good amount of time trying to convince Brooke that he wants to be with her.

Season 4 was just a sad, contrived mess for the B/L/P triangle and Mark made it no secret that he was started playing god instead of letting the show write itself. Lucas/Peyton were never taken seriously as OTP until stupid season 4. Lucas/Brooke, on the other hand, will always remain my favorite television couple ever.

It should be no surprise that these relationships parallel each other greatly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uza6ZWxAWgc

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